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Sunday, June 14, 2020

Myers Briggs

20-30 years go when I first did Myers Briggs I would show up as ENTJ or INTJ.

In the dying years of the marriage when I was desperately trying to work out how to save it and what was wrong with me, I did Myers Briggs and every other personality evaluation I could find and I was quite different.  I don't recall what though

Now I am dealing with depressive feelings of rejections and the hurt of being ghosted and the frustrations of trying to find a new tribe,
I thought I would do it again.
The official Myers Briggs web site does not have a free online test.

Here is a summary from various web sites.   More detail from each below.
http://www.humanmetrics.com  -> ENFJ
https://psychcentral.com/quizzes/personality/start.php -> ESTJ
https://my-personality-test.com/personality-type-indicator ->ENTP
truity.com/personality-test -> ENFJ (But the result is not clear on their web page)
openpsychometrics.org  -> ENFJ

Discussion
So none of the web sites said I was either
ENTJ or
 INTJ

Now   Three lots of ENFJ.
ENFJ
ENTJ
ENTP
ENFJ
ENFJ

And for the visual learners

So it looks like I am to the right and assuming one can visualise the thing as wrap around, it's kind of grouped.  But when you look at the percentages shown below, they all kind of low.  My suspicion is that I am probably putting too much value on this label anway.

Whats the difference between ENTJ and ENFJ?
T is
https://www.quora.com/Myers-Briggs-Type-Indicator-How-are-ENFJs-different-from-ENTJs


Comparing ENFJs and ENTJs:
  1. Emotion. ENFJs are known for the emotional intelligence and passion, while ENTJs are considered as one of the most unemotional types. To sum this up, as leaders ENTJs may be respected for their logic and strategy. However, ENFJ leaders are generally loved.
  2. Tactics. ENFJs are usually more tactful in their ways for confronting others, while ENTJs can come across as blunt and unfeeling. However, ENFJs are often people pleasing and sacrifice their beliefs for the sake of others. ENTJs on the other hand, stand true to their beliefs using their function Fi.
  3. Logic. ENTJs thrive upon logic and steady arguments, while ENFJs appreciate an emotional spin upon conversations. This does not mean that ENFJs are not logical, but simply that they prefer the emotional side more.

My Take
So I have become more emotional - I would agree with that.  It took forever for me to recognise the separation within the marriage and then living for years feeling isolated, abandoned & lonely and desperately trying again and again and failing every time to heal the wounds.



More Detail on the tests

 humanmetrics.com
ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant...

psychcentral.com
ESTJ - The Guardian
Practical, traditional, and organized.
Likely to be athletic.
Not interested in theory or abstraction unless they see the practical application.
 Have clear visions of the way things should be.
Loyal and hard-working.
Like to be in charge.
Exceptionally capable in organizing and running activities.
"Good citizens" who value security and peaceful living.

Mind you the above graphic does not seem to represent the letters.  They tell me I am ESTJ but the graphic indicates ENTP.  bug?


my-personality-test.com
ENTP Characteristics ENTPs make up 3.6% of the population.
Outgoing and charming
Interested in improving themselves
Able to understand complex ideas and theories
 Impartial and rational thinkers
Very responsible,
honest, and trustworthy
Creative and flexible








truity.com   ENFJ
Note the result is kind of enbedded.  They keep trying to direct you to pay
I 23%  77% E
S 21%  79% N
T31%  69%F
P55%  45%J

openpsychometrics.org
Extraverted feeling types seek continuity through harmonious relationships and collective values. They excel at picking up on the tone of a situation and acting accordingly, adding warmth to a cool setting or turning sour into sweet. They naturally seek to know what people do well, what they enjoy, and where and how they work. They seem to have an infinite number of acquaintances from all walks of life and are always on the lookout for people in need and those who can help out. ENFJs weave and strengthen the collective fabric of social conventions and interactions. Inclusiveness is important and they are particularly sensitive to those who are excluded.

ENFJs focus on others, feeling a glow when those around them are happy, and troubled when something is amiss. They are natural cheerleaders, often expressing support, gratitude, and encouragement, and heaping praise onto those they appreciate. They take note of what is being done and what needs doing, offering their assistance wherever necessary.

ENFJs enjoy organizing group activities (yes)
and tend to take their commitments seriously. (yes)
In general, they are reliable and do not like to disappoint others. (yes)
As team players and project leaders, they have a gift for rallying their players,
focusing on what is being done right (yes)
and each member's strengths. (I try but don't do well)
They are loyal and they expect loyalty. (yes)
They carry conversations well, finding common ground with their speaker. (I try)
They tend to find the correct and gracious way to respond in any given situation, (I try)
no matter how tense or uncomfortable it is. (I try)

Types with dominant extraverted feeling may uphold a wide range of values, simply because shared values are what create harmony. Some will profess the importance of tough-minded logic, justice and scholarly debate because their environments have these shared values. They tend to adopt the collective values of those in their social group. 







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